Rabu, 17 Juni 2015

A New Post -- really! Explaining non-deadly threats in Florida.

Those of you who actually are rumored to have read my blog have (on occasion)  emailed to make sure I am alive, and ask why I haven't posted anything for a while.  In order to answer that question, and more, First:  I am alive. I looked in the mirror -- and whoever the hell was in there waved back.  I'm sure it was me.   Second:  I rarely write unless I have something important to say, which is even more rare.   and Third:  I guess I haven't had anything important to say for quite some time.   However,  I actually got an interesting question by email -- that is also actually worth sharing.   And so . . .  for those of you hungry for my arguable "words of wisdom" -- your prayers have been answered -- or perhaps, alternatively -- greatest fears have been confirmed:   I write again!


The email question:   "Great book, I learned a lot! The one thing that puzzles me it what is a threat of "Non-deadly force". The only thing I can think of is "stop or I will have to use pepper spray." But what if I do not have pepper spray, what is one to say that is "non-deadly" threat?".   (thanks to David for sending it)



The Answer:   The whole thing royally screwed up by the 2014 Legislature is stupid -- but to explain:  a threat of non-deadly force is just a threat -- it doesn't need something to back it up in reality.  So -- where non-deadly force would be justified -- you should be able to "threaten"  (although not necessarily use) any non-deadly force that would be legally justified -- which should include:  pepper spray, tasers, stun guns, or whatever else fits.  It doesn't matter it's a bluff.  It doesn't matter that you don't have the actual weapon.   If it qualifies as a "threat" -- it's still a threat, weapon or not.  Whether a threat of non-deadly force, even in a non-deadly force situation,  is a great idea --  is another thing.  Whether it will escalate the situation is always an open question.   Whether the responding cop thinks it's justified -- who the hell knows.  The law is still quite imperfect, and immunity is a joke, unless the Florida Supreme Court changes some current interpretations.  Of course,  and on the other hand,  if any type burglary is about to go down -- a "threat"  (not the "use") of deadly force is lawful -- thus display of a firearm would be lawful if your apprehension was reasonable.  Use would probably not be permitted unless it escalated to something lots more serious.

Hope that helps.   If not -- read the last two chapters again.  It may just stimulate those long unused brain cells.   All my best.
 

jon gutmacher


p.s:  By the way -- the free internet book update will come out in mid to late July.  Not much new unless you are fleeing from a hurricane.  In that case,  you can now bring your gun -- but it must be concealed -- even without a CWL.  More on that in July.
 
 

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